That was their word for us: 'Mosquitoes'. Ed Macy about the nickname the Taliban fighters gave to the British AH-64 attack helicopters. Quoted from Apache.I am a bit obsessed with helicopter operations lately.
While messing around with ArmA2 (heliborne assaults and such), I wondered about the troops fighting the air assault. More in particular, insurgents.
What's like to deal with an attack helicopter by using an RPG-7?
In real life, not easy.
But real life is over-rated :), I think the virtual world of ArmA2 will do for the time being. :)
Off course ArmA2 has its limits but so does my question. For starters the computer controlled units do behave in certain ways that expose them to fire. Computer controlled attack helicopters overfly their targets, fly straight patterns, hover in questionable places, don't take advantage of their weapons range, etc. Only thing nice about computer-controlled attack helicopters is how they do running attacks instead of attacks from the hover. Having killed myself one millions times in DCS Black Shark because I got trapped in my rotors' downwash while hovering and trying to evade enemy fire at the same time, I'm now a big fan of running attacks. So is the US Army.
That's enough digression. Here's the deal: a flight of two computer-controlled US AH-64Ds against an RGP-7 team (me and my ammo man). Semi-urban setting, great visibility. Mano a mano.
The RPG-7 is a very simple weapon to use. Useful mostly at relatively short ranges (200 meters and below), it was designed for fire support and ambushing armored vehicles. Yeah, helicopters are not in the list. But it has been used against them: Mogadishu, Afghanistan, Chechnya, etc.
Here are a few notes from this scenario.
I tried to stay out of sight, close with the attack helicopters and fire while they were looking elsewhere. Easy to say, not so easy to do. I got killed more than I killed them. My ammo man, computer-controlled guy, would always give up our position by walking right in the middle of an intersection. When the Apaches see you, it's hard to shake them from above you.
The AI in ArmA2 doesn't cheat. Here is the fire from an Apache, impacting right where we were a few seconds ago. For the record, Jalil's corner shop will need some serious repair. |
The sights of the RPG-7 are not designed for this. I never hit a moving helicopter. |
Hug the walls of buildings like dear life, but treat buildings like temporary shelters, not fighting fortresses. There is no building in ArmA2 that can't be demolished by the arsenal of an Apache.
The only thing that saved us here is the big angle between the ground, ours and the helicopter's position. |
Mega! We are still too far from them. These alleys/corridors that go across blocks are great to take you from street to street without being spotted. |
One of those few seconds when you feel the hunter. The helicopter is flying away from our position. Make sure the wingman has also passed you. Keep alert! The Apache can literally turn on a dime. |
Hovering at a medium range from us, this Apache is asking for trouble. I don't think the power lines would interfere with my shot here, but I wonder if they would in real life. |
This Apache is forcing us out from the built up area. Extra careful now as buildings become more scarce. |
You can almost see the faces of the pilots at this range. Secondary effects include unhealthy doses of cannon rounds coming your way. |
A good hit like this one doesn't warrant a downed helicopter. Reload right away, the mosquito can still bite you! |
Steady, steady ... Please don't turn ... |
6 comments:
...so what happened?
Hi Dimitris,
I got killed 5 times. I could only down two helicopters.
Cheers,
Is there an AD (auto destruction) feature for the RPG in ArmA2? Creating airburst with this weapon is also a sneaky tactic that in volleys could be usefull against egg-beaters. /Pergite
This is what happened to multiple choppers in Somalia. It's also happened in Iraq and Afghanistan as well. I'd recommend you and a couple friends ambush the choppers with a couple of rounds each and disappear to fight another day. I wouldn't go chasing Apache's down.
-tFS
Looks like a nice fun and simple mission. :)
Ey Gents,
Thanks for your comments and sorry for the belated response.
Pergite,
Indeed the RPGs self-destruct after a certain flight time. I never measured in seconds, but it looks quite close to the real one (some 800 meters or so).
tFS,
I agree with you. I just wanted to see if it was overly difficult to shoot them down.
Cheers,
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